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Eleanor Mayer's avatar

I so agree with this interview .Thank you .

A UBI for our superannuatants and beneficiaries makes so much sense .

This is why I supported TOP ..felt so let down by Labour

We should consider a LAND TAX rather than a CGTax to pay for this . Easy to collect and unavoidable !

Susan's ideas are really excellent ..

Hope hope hope ...

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Anna Mahoney's avatar

Thank you, Susan and Bryan, for saying out loud the things I’ve been thinking. Your comments about the similarities between the policies of our two main parties in particular, which is why I left the Labour Party after supporting it my whole adult life and voted Green at the last election. There has to be a better way and it’s heartening to know good minds are on the job of identifying and, in future, promoting it more widely. I’ll sign up for that.

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les's avatar

Fantastic initiative bring it on

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Judith Paulin's avatar

Love your ideas Bryan and Susan!!

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NZ Global Economics Context's avatar

Thank you Susan and Bryan,

A very thought provoking conversation.

Back in the day of clear cut Empires, which are more opaque these days, you had an elite financial ruling class running things like a mafia protection racket.

You borrowed your money from them and paid a protection fee that got you protected from any challengers to your present mafia bosses that turned up trying to cut their action.

If you did not pay your protection fee or go fight any challengers of your present boss when instructed, your present boss took all you owned and physically assaulted you.

If the challenging mafia was stronger than your present mafia boss you become cannon fodder caught in the middle.

The mafia bosses got rich at the expense of their subjects and used those proceeds of crime to expand their racket as far as they could, making vassal states of other states and their citizens.

The standard of living you enjoy comes down to the level of compassion and greed of your present mafia boss.

Maori society, when here alone, had its own mafia bosses before the most powerful mafia boss in the world turned up, the European Privately Owned Investment Banker Mafia (EPOIBM), of the British Empire, who had first ripped off their own subjects, then used the proceeds of crime to expand their protection racket across borders.

New Zealand became a vassal state of the EPOIBM, forced to borrow our money used for commerce and development under punitive terms.

The EPOIBM later moved an additional base of its operations to America, becoming the Euro/American Privately Owned Investment Bankers Mafia EAPOIBM, British/American Tag Team Empire.

Despite gaining our so-called independence from the Empire in 1947, we are still forced to borrow our money supply from them under punitive terms, making us only semi autonomous, suffering incremental debt slavery, impossible funding puzzle results as more of new borrowings goes to pay only interest on older borrowings.

So I contest that any talk of providing Citizens Dividends can only be sustainable if we first take back inhouse the Citizens Natural Resource Credit Reserve Commons from the Empire, then start using the value of those credit reserves for ourselves, as many other nations do that have fended off the EAPOIBM authoritarian ruled British/American Empire.

To get a better understanding of the fundamentals of money as a system invented to enhance society but has been hijacked by mafia to enslave them, please, please, please look up the CV of the emeritus Prof of Finance and Law Robert Hockett and read a paper called The Finance Franchise published in 2018, linked here:

The Finance Franchise

https://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2660&context=facpub

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