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Extraordinary man

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Ruud is an absolute gem. Thank you for this interview.

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So very much enjoyed this. Wanted it to go on for ever. I’ve yet to listen to the other you provided. What a great human being Rudd is. He should also be doing adult garden workshops, sure people would pay good for it. There again life is short I’m sure he has better things to do.

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Wonderful to hear, although love his entomology & conservation work will always thank Ruud for introducing me to a collaboration I didn't know of. Years ago, in a radio interview, he mentioned that one of my favourite musicians (US Jazz guitarist Pat Metheny) had collaborated with Polish vocalist Anna Maria Jopek. I listen to Upojenie (originally a CD imported before streaming music was a thing) often and think of Ruud every time. For a taste, the opening track live performance is on her YouTube (as is the full audio)

Cichy zapada zmrok (live) Anna Maria Jopek & Pat Metheny video | https://youtu.be/Io4Kv9Q8KYw?si=pOF2R4gjEoKt0CjM

Upojenie Audio official upload | https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_luN--8nDodtOQ7G88SAZJJ_Suf_3qTYaU&si=t4gFceiYZ3KGj0Ih

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Wonderful interview with Ruud Kleinpaste! He is a living national treasure of NZ!

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OMG that was so good if Rud had been my biology teacher I'm pretty sure I would have stayed engaged unfortunately she was extremely boring. My grandfather used to write to me when I was a child about all the birds & insects in the garden & what they were up to I absolutely loved it & still love nature.

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Thanks Bryan and Ruud, I enjoyed the korero.

With regard to being a little bit pregnant Bryan, the story of fishing in Tikapa Moana / Hautaki Gulf is a little more nuanced.

The compromise allows people to continue access to low cost, high quality protein from an abundant species that is subject to strictly controlled quotas. All food production impacts the environment in some way and probably the ring fishing method has the least impact than most. Some will say bias, but Seafood NZ has a press release worth reading: https://www.seafood.co.nz/news-and-events/news/detail/hauraki-hysteria-how-do-we-cut-through-the-heat-over-tikapa-moana

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So is ring net fishing the same as purse seining? If it is it still catches all the by catch so that wouldn't be sustainable? They say it's for local communities well I don't know about that have you seen the price of fish lately?

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Hi Pauline,

Raewyn Peart writing on Newsroom says "Ring-net fishing is generally undertaken from small trailer boats, over soft sediment seafloor, and in shallow inshore waters. It involves surrounding a school of fish with a gill net, scaring the fish into the net, and then hauling the net back into the boat by hand. The net is usually in the water for 20-30 minutes. It is a relatively small, low-impact fishery and involves nothing like the industrially sized purse seining vessel in the RNZ coverage of the issue." That's my understanding of the method and Seafood NZ also says she gets it about right.

The compromise involves "five or six named fishers..." whose target species are mullet, kahawai and trevally. You might find them selling at a farmers market in South Auckland.

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