Exactly Bryan, if those companies had a defendable argument they would go to court and make a fool of Mike Smith. The corruption by Luxon et al covering it up is another story.
What a corrupt afront to what NZ ought and can be. So tired of business and the wealthy telling all what to do, how to do it and why to do it. Business is not the only form of organisation. Out with the lot of them. I want our participatory democracy back-of the people by the people for the people.
Already signed it. What Giltsmirk is doing is an absolute travesty and he worthily wears the title of Minister of Injustice. Polls put it on a knife edge but we just cannot allow these twerps to get back in. The three-headed dog is already at odds with itself. They have destroyed far more than they have achieved. Roll on 7 Nov.
The NZ Greens have announced a new policy on the weekend : an AI data moratorium or ban for a year to pause on this further fast tracking. Also they have a petition as well with about 7,000 signatures already. AI data centres will add to this issue hugely.
The huge proposed one in the South Island with Singapore should be stopped now.
The NZ Listener this week is mentioning Australia is setting a template for rules that NZ could copy or improve upon. As their PM mentioned in mid July we have a narrow window to set AI’s ”social licence” as like Gene Tech Bill /HSNO Act review . The NZ Green co-leader Chlöe Swarbrick stating ["You can't put that genie back in the bottle"] so the precautionary principle could be activated to provide guardrails for both, asap.
Both of these will help with the climate changes evident the past few years.
Good on the Greens for supporting the precautionary principle once more !
Just makes it clear once again that these are unprincipled people who do not care about the future of this country & its people. Except about the already wealthy & the will be wealthy - them, they care about deeply.
I applaud Mike's action but am not sure how you can call the government's response it an affront to democracy. Parliament is about to say "this kind of person can't sue that of person for a particular thing". I think that's exactly within the role of a legislature. Imagine a different scenario. Big business gets the go ahead to sue an iwi authority for restricting its property rights. Wouldn't you want the government to step in to prevent that? That's democracy - Parliament making the law, not courts.
The courts are there to be part of the democratic process. They allow ordinary people to stand on equal footing with the big and powerful. The courts arbitrate on behalf of the law. They are objective and unbiased. The problem arises when the government uses sledgehammer tactics to cut across the process. In your alternative scenario Catherine, where iwi are sued by big business, the court process should also proceed. Democracy is the way people have the biggest say in governing. The ruling power must not interrupt this process.
Imagine not being able to sue polluters of our water or air because the government of the day prefers to side with industry. Courts test law, goverments change legislation. This bill sounds proper ick.
Exactly Bryan, if those companies had a defendable argument they would go to court and make a fool of Mike Smith. The corruption by Luxon et al covering it up is another story.
Wow, almost 10,000 people have signed this petition in just five days. That says it all.
What a corrupt afront to what NZ ought and can be. So tired of business and the wealthy telling all what to do, how to do it and why to do it. Business is not the only form of organisation. Out with the lot of them. I want our participatory democracy back-of the people by the people for the people.
Already signed it. What Giltsmirk is doing is an absolute travesty and he worthily wears the title of Minister of Injustice. Polls put it on a knife edge but we just cannot allow these twerps to get back in. The three-headed dog is already at odds with itself. They have destroyed far more than they have achieved. Roll on 7 Nov.
The NZ Greens have announced a new policy on the weekend : an AI data moratorium or ban for a year to pause on this further fast tracking. Also they have a petition as well with about 7,000 signatures already. AI data centres will add to this issue hugely.
The huge proposed one in the South Island with Singapore should be stopped now.
The NZ Listener this week is mentioning Australia is setting a template for rules that NZ could copy or improve upon. As their PM mentioned in mid July we have a narrow window to set AI’s ”social licence” as like Gene Tech Bill /HSNO Act review . The NZ Green co-leader Chlöe Swarbrick stating ["You can't put that genie back in the bottle"] so the precautionary principle could be activated to provide guardrails for both, asap.
Both of these will help with the climate changes evident the past few years.
Good on the Greens for supporting the precautionary principle once more !
Signed. Goldsmith is a nasty piece of work.
Just makes it clear once again that these are unprincipled people who do not care about the future of this country & its people. Except about the already wealthy & the will be wealthy - them, they care about deeply.
I applaud Mike's action but am not sure how you can call the government's response it an affront to democracy. Parliament is about to say "this kind of person can't sue that of person for a particular thing". I think that's exactly within the role of a legislature. Imagine a different scenario. Big business gets the go ahead to sue an iwi authority for restricting its property rights. Wouldn't you want the government to step in to prevent that? That's democracy - Parliament making the law, not courts.
The courts are there to be part of the democratic process. They allow ordinary people to stand on equal footing with the big and powerful. The courts arbitrate on behalf of the law. They are objective and unbiased. The problem arises when the government uses sledgehammer tactics to cut across the process. In your alternative scenario Catherine, where iwi are sued by big business, the court process should also proceed. Democracy is the way people have the biggest say in governing. The ruling power must not interrupt this process.
Imagine not being able to sue polluters of our water or air because the government of the day prefers to side with industry. Courts test law, goverments change legislation. This bill sounds proper ick.
PS courts have NEVER made the law, they just administer it on behalf of everyone.